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IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE MONEY

This excerpt is taken from an interview with Ray in 2014.

"The thrill, the excitement of committing crimes was always the attraction for me, you know what I mean? It was never about the money.

When I think about when I get out of here in the future, I would say 60% of the time I think that I want to go straight, you know what I mean? I have three daughters. I have a lot of things to stay out of jail for, but to be honest with you, it's an addiction. Forty percent of the time I'm thinking about other things that I want to try, other financial crimes that I have a pretty good idea would work.

And then I want to know, I want to test my theories to see if they do work. And when I think about that, I get excited, it's got to be some kind of medical thing wrong with me, but I do, I get excited about it.

Even with the police officer that arrested me, I joke with him and I say yeah, you know, I'd like to retire from this crime, but there's just a few more things that I really know will work and I want to try and see if they do. Not so much for the money, just to see if they will work.

I think of it as some people do crossword puzzles, some people do Rubik's Cubes. I like the idea that Citibank spends a billion dollars a year on fraud prevention and that little old me can come along with maybe five or ten thousand dollars worth of equipment and just whack 'em for 50-60 grand at a time, you know."

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